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  • mjvande replied to the topic 'Electric Mountain Bikes - Good or bad thing?' in the forum.

    Bad, of course -- just as all motor vehicles, and bicycles in natural areas, are.

    Bicycles should not be allowed in any natural area. They are inanimate objects and have no rights. There is also no right to mountain bike. That was settled in federal court in 1996: mjvande.nfshost.com/mtb10.htm . It's dishonest of mountain bikers to say that they don't have access to trails closed to bikes. They have EXACTLY the same access as everyone else -- ON FOOT! Why isn't that good enough for mountain bikers? They are all capable of walking....

    A favorite myth of mountain bikers is that mountain biking is no more harmful to wildlife, people, and the environment than hiking, and that science supports that view. Of course, it's not true. To settle the matter once and for all, I read all of the research they cited, and wrote a review of the research on mountain biking impacts (see mjvande.nfshost.com/scb7.htm ). I found that of the seven studies they cited, (1) all were written by mountain bikers, and (2) in every case, the authors misinterpreted their own data, in order to come to the conclusion that they favored. They also studiously avoided mentioning another scientific study (Wisdom et al) which did not favor mountain biking, and came to the opposite conclusions.

    Those were all experimental studies. Two other studies (by White et al and by Jeff Marion) used a survey design, which is inherently incapable of answering that question (comparing hiking with mountain biking). I only mention them because mountain bikers often cite them, but scientifically, they are worthless.

    Mountain biking accelerates erosion, creates V-shaped ruts, kills small animals and plants on and next to the trail, drives wildlife and other trail users out of the area, and, worst of all, teaches kids that the rough treatment of nature is okay (it's NOT!). What's good about THAT?

    To see exactly what harm mountain biking does to the land, watch this 5-minute video: vimeo.com/48784297.

    In addition to all of this, it is extremely dangerous: mjvande.nfshost.com/mtb_dangerous.htm .

    For more information: mjvande.nfshost.com/mtbfaq.htm .

    The common thread among those who want more recreation in our parks is total ignorance about and disinterest in the wildlife whose homes these parks are. Yes, if humans are the only beings that matter, it is simply a conflict among humans (but even then, allowing bikes on trails harms the MAJORITY of park users -- hikers and equestrians -- who can no longer safely and peacefully enjoy their parks).

    The parks aren't gymnasiums or racetracks or even human playgrounds. They are WILDLIFE HABITAT, which is precisely why they are attractive to humans. Activities such as mountain biking, that destroy habitat, violate the charter of the parks.

    Even kayaking and rafting, which give humans access to the entirety of a water body, prevent the wildlife that live there from making full use of their habitat, and should not be allowed. Of course those who think that only humans matter won't understand what I am talking about -- an indication of the sad state of our culture and educational system.

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  • stumpy_dan created a new topic ' Electric Mountain Bikes - Good or bad thing?' in the forum.

    I have seen quite a bit of press on electric mountain bikes in the US seeing them banned? WhenI first heard of electric MTB' I thought nuts. .just for lazy and or for speed obsessed freaks but then as I think to a community that is young but is ageing along with the population I sense electric MTB bikes if controlled (in terms of speed limitations) would actually increase accessibility as well as longevity of users to the sport as they age / injure etc. Other arguments for them exist.. like increasing the breadth of places folk can downhill as they offer a means of access where an uplift doesn't or cant operate. At the same time the ability or maybe the fear to fiddle speed limitations apparently can seem more like a motocross trying to overtake you. What folk think? I sense that some the UK trail centres may slowly ban them but as they regulate and trail centre design maybe adjusts to accommodate them they will become an inevitability.

    Be interesting to hear from riders as well as from trail centres, trail designers and bike manufactures.

    Moab bans electric MTBs | Bicycle Business | BikeBiz www.bikebiz.com/news/read/moab-bans-electric-mtbs/017152

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